Case was seen as major test of the first amendment and whether the US could use broad anti-terrorism statute to prosecute leftwing protesters
Meanwhile pro-ICE protester/influencer Jake Lang got caught trying to pick up what he thought was a 15 year old girl.
State sponsored domestic terrorism
If they are going to process you as terrorist anyway, then you might as well make moves that are worthy of the label. After all the only real difference between a freedom fighter and terrorist is the narrative.
Jein. There’s also the problem that antifa believers generally have universal morals, such as killing is bad.
We killed a whole bunch of Nazis about 80 years back and that worked out pretty well
Well akshually - as a German who paid attention in history class:
- killing Nazis was an act of necessary self-defense to accomplish anything. A precondition, if you will
- what worked out pretty well was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan and especially the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification - I will be forever grateful to the Allied Forces for getting this right. It made Germany the least fascist nation in Europe for well over 60 years.
The long lasting effects were not permanent, unfortunately. I might like to ask for another allied victory over Nazi Germany soonish, with a new Denazification. Except there are no “Allied Forces” left that stand against Nazism :( And I am not trying to be dramatic, this is actually fucking with me for the past 10 years or so.
Well actually, we were kind of hoping that you guys might gang up and save us from our lunatic this time
I mean, it won’t be long before we are utterly defenseless.
The problem is your country got nukes and the largest conventional military in the world - we couldn’t help you out even if we wanted to. :(
Give us a couple of weeks, we’re blowing through all that stuff right now
I am so devastated for the İranian people :'-( On the one side butchered by their regime, and on the other they are getting bombed by a pedo-criminal bunch of rapists and murderers trying to distract from their corruption.
There might be an opportunity after we blow through the missiles and drones over the next few years if a debt crisis wrecks our economy.
Not holding my breath, but the future is uncertain.
Huh? I read here constantly about killing Nazis, meaning law enforcement and republicans.
Agreed.
Bruh - Deeeeeep
When your own government has it’s boot on your throat, fighting back is not terrorism. Sheesh! That should be obvious.
Song faces a minimum of 20 years and a maximum of life in prison, according to the US attorney for the northern district of Texas. Arnold, Evetts, Morris, Rueda, Batten, Elizabeth Soto and Ines Soto each face between 10 and 60 years in prison. Sanchez Estrada faces up to 40 years.
Just out of curiosity, has the DOJ ever gotten around to charging anybody in the Epstein files other than Maxwell? Bc there’s like millions of files.
Like even just one single pedophile? Just to make the streets a little safer? Surely if they can make all this complete bullshit stick they can make something from those files stick, right?
I’m sure they’re more than motivated and will be getting around to it soon. It’s only been 14 months and they probably just got a little distracted.
They had to take care of the much more dangerous members of a made up organization. Now that that’s all cleared up and out of the way, I’m sure the hammer of justice will be swift for all those names that show up over and over again in those files…
Nope.
A few have faced professional consequences, but that’s it
I’m sure it will be any day now. As soon as they get Antifa off the streets. Priorities.
Not like they’re going to try and rebuild the justice system and all of society so that eventually everybody but the pedophiles ends up locked away…
The prosecutor said, “They’re here because they ambushed a cop.” WTF?!?! Well then, on Jan 6th a mob of fucking MAGA terrorists ambushed a lot of police officers.
A whole bunch of people were charged and convicted for that. The only hypocricy is the pardons.
When being against fascism gets you charged as a terrorist, you live in a fascist regime.
And all those concentration camps they’re building aren’t just for immigrants.
Even if they were, it would count.
Yeah, if they were “just for immigrants” they wouldn’t be any less bad. They’re horror made real either way, which is the main reoccurring reality of what’s happening.
There shouldn’t be a law against terrorism. Real terrorism already involves serious crimes (murder etc.). There should not be a law defining “being a terrorist” as illegal.
“found guilty of support for terrorism” is bullshit.
If the bill of rights is not applicable, they are beyond laws.
The rules are made up and the points don’t matter.
Do you think they classified the IRGC as a terrorist organization so that they can have a pretense for going after critics of the war?
Thats actually insane. This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE deal
Every other day it’s something that’s a HUGE HUGE HUGE fucking deal. It’s done, the frog is boiled. Violent rebellion or accept fascism, choose one.
Have you joined your local lefty self defense org?
I’m just sitting here in Canada hoping you guys get your fucking shit together and figuring out a way I can get my transgender girlfriend the fuck out of America.
does she have any Canadian grandparents (like anywhere up her family tree, great-great-great grandparents, etc.)? I think they just made a new rule that Americans who can prove they are descended from a Canadian can apply for citizenship?
I don’t think she does. I’m pretty sure I asked her about that before.
Sorry m8
Shit sucks, bro. I’m worried about her every day.
Also a canadian, join the Canadian Socialist Rifle Association
They pointed to the fact that the demonstrators took steps to prevent their cell phones from being tracked.
Prosecutors also pointed to the way that the protesters used Signal, a widely-used messaging application, as evidence of their coordination and conspiracy. The protesters used pseudonyms on the app and had messages autodelete, an increasingly common practice among protesters and journalists who are concerned about government surveillance. They also emphasized the defendants were wearing all black during the protest, sometimes describing it as “tactical” gear.
That just describes my normal non-protest day. The fuck is this?
The Epstein class wants to “protect the children” through mandatory ID and E2EE bans, if you don’t support the Epstein class then you’re a terrorist
My black T-shirt is now tactical gear.
Tactileneck
Antifa! ANTIFA!!!
Me too, by the way. Tbh, I’m way closer to antifa than to ever setting foot in the USA. And I still think that’s a good thing. At least being anti fascist and willing to punch a Nazi.
When you find out you’ve been a terrorist your whole life…
At first they came for the tactical protestors and I said nothing. Then they came for the goths, then the emo kids.
And the overweight people, because black is slimming.
Whatever side you’re on, this is worrisome. Today it’s Antifa, tomorrow it’s the Tea Party etc.
Weapons can be repurposed as new parties take power endlessly until finally some sane group of souls has the decency to legislate away malicious prosecutions based on politics.
US has been doing the exact same shit to leftists ever since the founding of USSR, this is not new. Sadly the tea party people have nothing to worry about.
Yeah if these tools ever get used by leftists civil war will get a whole lot more likely.
The “tea party” are the people running the country right now.
The first Texan to roll Paxton into the Gulf of Mexico wins.
First skin ‘im. Then drag through the salty sand out into that salty gulf.
Of course I don’t approve of violence. But if you’re going to do something, do it right.
Edit: all things just harmless shit talking of course.
Sanchez-Estrada was the only defendant not at the protest, and was only charged with corruptly concealing a document or record, after prosecutors say he moved leftwing zines following the arrest of his wife, Maricela Rueda, on the Fourth of July. Song also escaped after the incident and there was an 11-day manhunt for him.
WTF THEYRE COMING FOR OUR ZINES!!!???
I’m confused. Is a left wing magazine one that promotes the ideals of freedom like fighting against government overreach against your people? Is a left wing magazine one that advocates for defending your friends and family against masked thugs using any means necessary?
Because apparently I know a lot of Republicans on the Antifa payroll.
Ooooo wow you sure got them in a pickle of hypocrisy now
Buy a gun
TIL as I’ve long suspected: The Declaration of Independence and Constitution are left-wing zines circulated by anti-authoritarian extremists. Fascinating.
I’m pretty sure the Bible is a left-wing zine.
No mistake!
(high-fives you in Christian Anarchist)
First amendment is long dead bro
The IHRA really did kill it
What does ihra mean in this context. I looked it up and can’t figure it out.
Ah, sorry about that. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA). They created a definition of antisemitism that conflate criticism of pissrael with antisemetism and they are working hard as hell to get it installed across all the governments. Some states have used their definition iirc. But, to me, it was the final nail in the coffin that is the first ammendment, at the behest of Zionazis
I believe this was a part of their ‘throw spaghetti at the wall and see which sticks’ strategy, because while I read about these charges it became obvious that they applied pretty much any charge available that could halfway fit into a conviction.
They did all they could to make an example out of these people, and as many have said this is something that we all really need to start paying attention to. This is a big step and a big deal.
“You have been fount guilty of zpreading communist propaghanda. Ze fuhrer is most displeazed.”
I belive the term here is “kangaroo court”
