• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Again. Having the fucked up system of people having to survive on handouts and donations from strangers is the problem. Not the tourists.

    The only disconnect is that americans are bitching about tourists not tipping on lemmy, rather than bitching about servers having to rely on tips in the first place to their representatives.

    The US vowed to offer free public transit for World Cup tourists in their bid to host it. Instead once push came to shove. They increased their prices instead of upholding what they promised.

    Maybe more tourists would tip had their entire budget not been flipped on its head just weeks prior to the event.

    Simple as.

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      3 days ago

      Sure, but unless you can fix it yesterday, before they got here, this is the system they’re visiting.

      The US vowed to offer free public transit for World Cup tourists in their bid to host it. Instead once push came to shove. They increased their prices instead of upholding what they promised.

      Oh yeah I forgot about that, all the waiters in the country got together and conspired to do that to personally fuck you, I remember that meeting.

      You think the people you’re not tipping had anything to do with that? You’re insane.

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        3 days ago

        You think the people you’re not tipping had anything to do with that? You’re insane.

        What the fuck are you talking about? You are aware that most people dont have unlimited funds right? Having to spend an extra $50-$100 on transport for each trip has to come out of the budget somewhere.

        But you thought i suggested the waiters conspired to raise transport prices? Because that’s the obvious conclusion or what? No, I’m not insane. But you’re an idiot stuck at a second grade reading level.

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          3 days ago

          What the fuck are you talking about?

          No u.

          You are aware that most people dont have unlimited funds right?

          You are aware the servers you’re stiffing are part time workers without healthcare or vacation time at all and they’re also struggling to afford basic life, right? While the people that won’t tip can afford to fly halfway across the fucking world for their precious soccy game? Talk about out of touch lmao.

          Fuck your budget, stay home.

          But you thought i suggested the waiters conspired to raise transport prices?

          OH my mistake you’ve never experienced sarcasm before. Bless your heart you sweet summer child. Fucking christ.

          Because that’s the obvious conclusion or what?

          If that is the justification you’re giving for why they can’t tip those specific servers than I guess so, they must have slighted you personally if they’re the ones that get the shaft. Unless you’re a bad person…

          No, I’m not insane.

          Debatable

          But you’re an idiot stuck at a second grade reading level.

          Oh look there’s that “no u” again! Funny thing that. Hey don’t get mad at me you’re the one blaming servers for what was it, bus prices or some dumb fucking bullshit? Fuck off lmao.

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            2 days ago

            But you thought i suggested the waiters conspired to raise transport prices?

            OH my mistake you’ve never experienced sarcasm before. Bless your heart you sweet summer child. Fucking christ.

            Hey don’t get mad at me you’re the one blaming servers for what was it, bus prices or some dumb fucking bullshit? Fuck off lmao.

            See, this right here is how i know you’re not being sarcastic. That you genuinly thought it was the case.

            I’m not blaming servers for anything. I’m blaming the US government. It’s their fault things are the way they are. Not servers, not tourists.

            This might sound radical to someone like you. But hear me out. If servers rely on a 20% tip on every meal. Why not just include that in the price for the start and it will never be a problem. You know, like how the rest of the world does it.

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              1 day ago

              It’s their fault things are the way they are. Not servers

              That’s the point, fucking over someone who has absolutely nothing to do with your grievances is A) a dick move and B) not “fixing the system” as half the dingbats in here are claiming.

              This might sound radical to someone like you. But hear me out. If servers rely on a 20% tip on every meal. Why not just include that in the price for the start and it will never be a problem. You know, like how the rest of the world does it.

              I’m not gonna go back up in the thread to prove it, but since I said it 500 times to probably all 500 of the cheapskate commenters, I’m gonna assume I’m saying this to you again, possibly for the 3rd or 4th time, so pick it up this time:

              Sure. But there’s a difference between what “should be” and what “is.” Until we get to where “should be” becomes "is,” we have to live with “is.” As it is now, currently, right now, during the event that people are currently here for now, the system is tipping, so behave as “is” while working towards “should” (or just y’know get with the goddamn program for the week you’re here then go the fuck back and stop worrying about it, which is what I’d do in your shoes, but you do you.)

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                10 hours ago

                I’ve never heard of someone willingly altering their behavior while also being enabled every step of the way.

                If you actually read the article. It talks about how some resturants now add a NON OPTIONAL 20% “gratuity” to the bill.

                Seems like they’re already halfway there. All that’s left is to include it in the price so people know what they’re paying.

                Funny how easy it was to “fix” the system.

                So yeah. Looks like people not tipping actually was the solution.

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                  8 hours ago

                  If you ask most of the dickheads in these comments “that isn’t good enough” but also I hope it’s only for people with any Euro accent lol.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Why would you hope it’s only for europeans? Don’t you think US servers deserve a liveable wage regardless of who buys the food?