Melania first then.
Elmo muskrat next
Yes, he fails the good moral character requirement miserably and definitely falls under: “migrants who undermine domestic tranquility”.
He was also an undocumented immigrant at one point, from overstaying his college visa IIRC.
both him and kimball.
Vance’s wife?
The beard you mean.
Of course! As if that even needed to be asked.
Deport the sofa back to Sweden!
As if Trump actually cares about Melania
Notice the terminology. Working to expand effort means that they are going ahead with that plan. This is not a drill.
It’s been not-a-drill since November 2024.
True, I was just pointing out that this isn’t just the republicans saying they’re going to do something. That usually doesn’t mean anything except that they’re testing the waters.
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If you have some citizens with real citizenship and other citizens with provisional, revocable citizenship, then you have created a system, both in theory and in practice, with first-class and second-class citizens.
Yet I have a feeling those of us who really were born here are never going to have a citizenship advantage over the likes of Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Patrick Soon-Shiong, and so on.
The division already exists in law, look up statutory citizenship vs constitutional citizenship
I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think I buy that as a comparison.
Revocation of statutory citizenship would presumably come from an act of congress, revoking the citizenship of whole classes of people at once, like “everyone born on an overseas military base” or “everyone born on a US territory.”
In contrast, the administration is going after naturalized (constitutional) citizens in a systematic way. It’s not happening at a scale that has any policy-level meaning in a country as large as this, but it can create fear and uncertainty, a feeling of precariousness.
What else did you think they were building all those massive concentration camps for?
Parties for Elon and friends?
It’s a short putt from there to removing citizenship from anyone, for any reason.
Most foreign born Americans. I have a feeling there’s already a list of people who can stay. A short one. Populated by billionaire conservatives and eastern European former models.
Don’t forget about future models — that crowd likes 'em young, I hear 🫤
Start with Melania
Rafael Cruz
Teddiursa is natural born, unfortunately. Elon and Peter Thiel, on the other hand.
And his 4 anchor babies.
There are growing concerns that the DHS effort is more about creating fear and less about successfully stripping citizenship. Even if Americans swept up in investigations aren’t prosecuted or convicted, the process takes a financial and emotional toll; they’d have to hire lawyers and produce documents.
Margy O’Herron, a senior fellow in the liberty and national security program at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School, said the mere threat of denaturalization creates real terror.
“Citizens are afraid that if they do or say something the government doesn’t like — even if those things are lawful and protected by the Constitution — they will be a target,” she said.
Sounds likely to me.
Yep, it would only be applied selectively. They spun this up for Mamdani and the MAGA chuds don’t think it’ll happen to their mail order brides, so they’re all fine with it.
If they go through with it, flood their tip line with calls about Melania and Elon.
Ok so the expansion plan is the justices department pushing to have any naturalized citizen lose their citizenship if they commit a crime.
It’s a BS policy (personally I think citizenship should be rendered impossible to revoke) but that is my understanding of the plan
If they “commit a crime”, yes.
Usually the only grounds for revoking citizenship is fraud during the citizenship acquisition process, which I think seems a fair rule
Yes but for this administration being anti-government is fraud. Because only fake people from terrorist groups, foreign advisers, and “George Soros.” Would ever be against the US government (sarcasm)
melania is a fine example of that fraud.
Let me guess, Barack Obama gets deported because he’s obviously from Kenya
Sigh
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried.
Obama and other blue oligarch servants are perfectly safe. They’re not the ones who are actually being murdered and dissapeared under this admin.
The fact that any retired Democrat officer is still in the US just shows how clueless they are.
I have a very close friend from Venezuela, who became a naturalized citizen in December 2924, after Trump’s election, but before his inauguration.
She tells me she’s not concerned, because she’s a citizen, but they don’t even respect Birthright Citizenship, they certainly aren’t going to respect any citizenship that was conferred under a Democratic administration, especially Obama’s or Biden’s.
She’s a genuinely good person, and America is a better place with her in it, but MAGA wouldn’t agree. I’m really worried about her.
God fucking damn it, you’re telling me he’s getting cryogenically process and is coming back in 900 years to terrorize my Great^30 Grandchildren?
Does that include his wife?
Take it, please. I’ve been looking for a “get out of citizenship free” card. This would be a dream come true. I’d finally have a free slot to get dual citizenship somewhere nice. Maybe even somewhere with less fascist pedos in charge.
Being stateless tends not to work out so well. Other countries don’t suddenly decide to offer citizenship to those in need.
I have dual citizenship. I’d rather switch the US one though
What’s preventing you from simply renouncing it then?
I’m familiar with a handful of people who have done so, mostly due to the tax burden that this country places on them. The fee is a bit hefty, but it was better than continuing to pay taxes towards a country you don’t even live in.
I pay enough taxes where I live, so I wouldn’t have to pay any more, only do the declaration. However, I really hate paper work and don’t plan on ever going back. Soo, no. If they want me, they need to come and get me. As I see it, we’re already split. Making it official would be to costly and not worth it. I just renounced my citizenship mentally - you know, like Trump. Since there is no rule of law anymore anyway, this is just as valid.
Not to mention that American citizenship brings with it the burden of having to file and possibly pay US taxes even if you don’t live in the US. The US is one of only half a dozen countries in the world that does this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_taxation
Straight out of the gestapo playbook.
