Yeah, for jobs that are expected to rely on tips federal minimum is $2.13 with the expectation that tips will bring you higher. In theory if wages + tips don’t cover the spread to $7.25 (general minimum wage) the employer is supposed to cover the difference.
Why are you saying “In theory”? and “Supposed to”?
Wouldn’t not making up the difference in these cases be illegal?
What I’m hearing is that if everyone decided not to tip, then servers would(should) still walk away with minimum wage. So servers aren’t incentivised to change the system because sometimes they take away more than minimum?
Except the same is true for other tipping cultures, minimum living wage is garunteed, tips are extra.
Seems like the US has the same outcome in terms of meeting minimum wage but with many complications and without the legal protections for the employee.
Wage theft is the single largest form of theft in the US. More than everything else combined. Over $60 billion a year. We do have minimum wages and labor laws. The enforcment is just awful because we live in hell.
I said in theory and supposed to because if it’s happening regularly then either you’re providing terrible service and about to get fired or the restaurant isn’t bringing in enough customers and isn’t going to make it much longer.
So servers aren’t incentivised to change the system because sometimes they take away more than minimum?
It’s been a long time since I worked in a restaurant but when I did it was a mid-high end place and they were definitely making more than minimum wage.
I’m not going to pretend I know what the answer is, but a few people just not tipping here and there isn’t it.
Seems like the US has the same outcome in terms of meeting minimum wage but with many complications and without the legal protections for the employee.
Ideally, yes. But those complications and missing protections really screw things up.
Yeah, for jobs that are expected to rely on tips federal minimum is $2.13 with the expectation that tips will bring you higher. In theory if wages + tips don’t cover the spread to $7.25 (general minimum wage) the employer is supposed to cover the difference.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
Why are you saying “In theory”? and “Supposed to”? Wouldn’t not making up the difference in these cases be illegal?
What I’m hearing is that if everyone decided not to tip, then servers would(should) still walk away with minimum wage. So servers aren’t incentivised to change the system because sometimes they take away more than minimum?
Except the same is true for other tipping cultures, minimum living wage is garunteed, tips are extra.
Seems like the US has the same outcome in terms of meeting minimum wage but with many complications and without the legal protections for the employee.
Wage theft is the single largest form of theft in the US. More than everything else combined. Over $60 billion a year. We do have minimum wages and labor laws. The enforcment is just awful because we live in hell.
I said in theory and supposed to because if it’s happening regularly then either you’re providing terrible service and about to get fired or the restaurant isn’t bringing in enough customers and isn’t going to make it much longer.
It’s been a long time since I worked in a restaurant but when I did it was a mid-high end place and they were definitely making more than minimum wage.
I’m not going to pretend I know what the answer is, but a few people just not tipping here and there isn’t it.
Ideally, yes. But those complications and missing protections really screw things up.