Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop changing the subject! We’re talking about COSTS here, bucko! Somebody’s gotta pay!

I know I could search and I will, but asking for anyone else in case I don’t return - got any source? Cause that would be disgusting if true and yet another cause to avoid SB

This is kinda the cheaper method, much less severance to pay when it’s a voluntary separation - from the linked article:

workers who choose not to relocate will be eligible for a one-time voluntary exit program with a cash payment

This is lately referred to as a ‘stealth layoff.’

To any visitors to this thread from the future - yes, this was at the same time that Ukraine was engaged in a defensive war with Russia; and America was kicking out any foreigners it could while ruining the global economy with import taxes.

Crazy, sad times, these were.

Ok, thank you for explaining, I thought the context was all Americans who could claim the SS benefit, hence my confusion with your comment. Cheers!

Also (sorry to double comment you) wanted to mention, I don’t think any American has yet had to deal with actually not having SS benefits (I mean generally, in that they still exist, I am not talking about exceptional cases and those where the benefits were taken away legally, if that exists).

From the Gallup article you posted:

Social Security’s future has been a topic of debate for decades. The system is expected to be able to continue to pay full benefits to recipients through 2033 if no changes are made to the system. In 2034, the system is projected to be able to pay 80% of benefits to recipients.

So it could happen in the next decade, but we expect it based on how it’s structured.

If it gets taken away from Americans by some ruling class, I’m pretty sure the reactions will be swift and meaningful. And I’m not even referring to any kind of violence, just normal old social and political and legal actions.

Sorry, I have to have things spelled out for me sometimes - what is your ‘but’?

Agreed, totally, I just don’t think there is any evidence that all of those people (many, many Americans) are Fox News fans or would even want to be in the same room when it’s on the television.

I’m not deluded about any revolution and I didn’t use those words.

I’m not certain which demo you’re referring. All Americans with jobs pay into SS, and certainly not even half of them give a fuck all about some shitty cable infotainment network.

Dude, we are talking about 12.4% of folks taxable earnings since the day they all joined the workforce. You think tears are the only things gonna happen if that got stolen?

Exactly, if they can’t hold up their end, it’s time for some old fashioned leg breaking.

Damn, I was going to post a comment like “…and his immigration policies… and his disaster response policies (FEMA, et al)…” BUT you tucking nailed it

The Economist currently has a podcast series about this very topic, it’s called ‘Scam Inc’ hosted by Sue-Lin Wong. They follow a trail of ‘pig butchering’ scammers from their victims back to the scam cities in Myanmar. Very well done and informative.

https://www.economist.com/audio/podcasts/scam-inc