Even anti-Iranian-government nonprofits headquartered in Washington DC are giving figures around the 7000.

Stop propagating Zionist propaganda

Iranian government puts the death toll about 3000. I didn’t specify that figure, I believe it could be higher but still within the thousands.

You’re the one swallowing Zionist propaganda.

Who said I trust the Iranian government? It’s simply obvious that Israel-associated media inflates the figures. Parroting Israeli propaganda uncritically is unwise.

Because the 30k figure is extremely inflated by Israel-associated media

If you gave a single fuck about Iranians, you’d know that the better and newer estimates hover around the thousands and not tens of thousands. For reference, estimates of dead Palestinians since Oct 7th due to violence and privation of food, water, energy and medicine, range in the half million.

How many tens of thousands of Iranians have been murdered by US+EU sanctions knowing that said sanctions murder half a million people worldwide EVERY YEAR?

Spaniard here: Podemos, a prominent leftist party that appeared in the 2010s as third political force, was categorized as radical since its inception by mainstream media. The party has almost disappeared now, mainly due to a plot by the state police and private media in which the police fabricated false investigations of funding by Venezuela and Iran (wonder why these two are always used as dogwhistles) and leaked them to the media to make a huge campaign of lawfare and manufacturing of public mistrust.

No you don’t, you’re just ignorant

I knew the 80% figure off the top of my head, just mistook Qatar for SA, how else do you explain the 80% figure specifically.

You first say poor people, now you change it to immigrant

I specified poor in the case of the DPRK as they have practically no immigration, but left clear the apartheid regime against immigrants in the case of the Arabian Peninsula Monarchies.

“Sponsors/employers are responsible for paying for an extensive package of services for private sector expatriates.”

If the de-facto result is that immigrants are left without a fucking passport, the regulation matters 0. You measure a system by its results, not by its laws.

There’s no need to be an impolite twat, and skimming over a wikipedia article doesnt give you the slightest authority to discuss a subject.

I’m running defense for the DPRK because there is an insane amount of bullshit surrounding the country as proven by people in the comments taking Yeonmi Parks at face value, and I believe there is virtue in being educated about stuff, especially politically. You refuse to do that and instead you get mad and start insulting, so I’ll stop wasting my time with you.

Sorry, mistook it originally for the Qatar figure, which has a similar system and 88% migrant population.

Also, except for the bit about permission to leave country (crazy, imo) that sounds like a normal work permit in many conventionally democratic countries, where employer also uses it’s power over migrant workers

When immigrant workers aren’t given access to basic rights like healthcare, it’s an apartheid state. You could read about it instead of speculating about the extreme levels of exploitation of those poor people.

The 80% figure I mistook for the one of Qatar originally, which has a similar system but 88% of their population are immigrants without rights.

Every service you pointed out leaves immigrants without access, 40% of Saudi population not having access to healthcare is exactly my point. Wikipedia explicitly says this healthcare is for citizens, and when 40% are non citizens, it’s a de-facto apartheid state with half the population being immensely exploited

Why are you running defense for authoritarian monarchies in the Middle East?

If not uncritically swallowing Radio Free Asia propaganda makes me stupid, I guess I am. Go on believing your fairytales of forbidden/mandatory haircuts, multigenerational prisons and belief in unicorns

About Saudi Arabia:

The kafala system or kefala system (Arabic: نظام الكفالة niẓām al-kafāla, lit. ‘sponsorship system’) is a system in the Middle East that involves binding the residency and employment status of a migrant worker to a specific employer throughout the period of their residence in a country. Under this arrangement, the employer holds substantial authority over the worker, including the ability to approve or deny job changes, and permission to leave the country. This dependency creates a significant power imbalance that heightens the risk of exploitation and abusive practices.

Demographics in Saudi Arabia:

However, 38.3% of the residents (or about 13.3 million people) are non-citizens,[8] and many of them are migrant workers.

When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights, idk what you’re claiming false about my arguments

Regarding sources for North Korea, the YouTube channel “DPRK Explained” does a great job of showing the realities of North Korea. You should have a look if you’re interested.

What non-democratically-chosen capitalist owner would you have chosen then?

Ah yes, South Korean interviews of North Koreans that have managed to flee the country- classic western propaganda

Unironically yes. Russia literally does this with the right wing US émigrées that move to Russia because gay rights are shit there and “they have no woke”, these people literally get paid to do such propaganda.

Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

A society whose results don’t match those of a personal monarchic dictatorship. For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves. There’s no public healthcare, no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

In the DPRK, there’s widespread public transit infrastructure with trains and trams, public education for everyone, public healthcare, good workers’ rights relative to their level of development, people-centered urban planning, collectivized agriculture… You wouldn’t expect any of these things from an absolutist monarchy.

Your entire knowledge of the DPRK comes from western propaganda, I’m not the obtuse one here. Tell me how many times you’ve gone “actually, let’s see” and tried to read something about the country? You’re analyzing the political structure of a country based on 3 news shots from western sources.

What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea

I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

that rule and guide the country

This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

“Political power comes from televised claps”

-No serious political analysis ever

From your own article:

It is widely believed that Kim Jong-nam was murdered on the orders of Kim Jong Un.

So, it is not factually known who really killed him (rather on behalf of whom), but that’s enough to you to claim absolute power by the Kim family?

I could mention the current old king of Spain (Juan Carlos the First) murdering his brother, does that prove absolute power by the Spanish monarchy?

Also funny:

At the time of his death, Kim’s backpack contained approximately $100,000 in cash

I wonder where he would find that kind of American money

Ok, now, can you conceive that the Kim family’s role is more representative as in a constitutional monarchy (such as that of my homeland of Spain) than it is de-facto monarchical power? I’m not saying that the DPRK’s parliament is democratically elected, I’m questioning whether we can, with the information at our disposal in the west, affirm that the politics of the DPRK are controlled by one particular family and not by, say, the cadres of their communist party.