Pika

Good. This needs to be done. So many officials are just “resigning” as a sign of mutual respect as that is what is considered the norm, but honestly they should just wait it out (and if fired fight it out if there is legal recourse like this to do so), there’s zero reason to keel over and let federal services get demolished out of moral obligations.

honestly countries affected should just go the nuclear route and embargo the US. in retaliation. Canada especially.

Yes it will fuck both sides, but it’ll get the point across these tariffs are stupid

That’s understandable I forgot about work/student non-immigrant visa’s, these still fall under a legal visa, I don’t understand why people with legal visas are being the target. They are in the country legally, there shouldn’t be any grounds for deportation for those. Being said after looking into it, it doesn’t seem like they need a reason to deport valid visa holders, which is screwed up honestly.

I did a little research on this, and this is insane. The current legal code (8 USC 1201(i)) states

After the issuance of a visa or other documentation to any alien, the consular officer or the Secretary of State may at any time, in his discretion, revoke such visa or other documentation.

and to top it off, it also contains at the end

There shall be no means of judicial review (including review pursuant to section 2241 of title 28 or any other habeas corpus provision, and sections 1361 and 1651 of such title) of a revocation under this subsection, except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the sole ground for removal under section 1227(a)(1)(B) of this title.

This sounds like it means that if there is any type of other thing happening (such as an accusation that you broke the law or are here illegally), they can just say “ok visa revoked get out” with very limited possibility to a legal review

I can understand that being the case for actual criminals but, that seems super extreme.

Being said though, 9 FAM 403.11 is the declassified guidelines that it seems officials are supposed to use, and those state:

• (1) Unavailable
• (2) (U) The individual is not eligible for the visa classification (this includes ineligibility under INA 214(b));
• (3) (U) The visa has been physically removed from the passport in which it was issued; or
• (4) (U) The individual is subject to an IDENT Watchlist record in System Messages for an arrest or conviction of driving under the influence, driving while intoxicated, or similar arrests/convictions (DUI) that occurred within the previous five years, pursuant to 9 FAM 403.11-5(B) paragraph c, below.

Overall, that’s fucked.

So does this mean that there are 20,000 Koreans listed that are registered for citizenship but are just stuck in processing, and the remaining 120,000 are here illegally? If so I can see why they are deporting the 120,000 but, I don’t understand why they are deporting the 20,000 as if they are here legally they should have visas showing their status of being here.

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