• Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world
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    Hold him accountable or something, yall dont even have guard rails to protect american citizens and hold people in power accountable, america is literally a business trying to make the most profit possible. Citizens rights? Fuq that shit xd

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      america is literally a business trying to make the most profit possible

      Unfortunately, this 100% true, and most people don’t truly realize it. In 1919, Dodge sued Ford, claiming that Henry Ford was operating his company under policies that benefitted him and his workers more than they benefitted the shareholders. The court found for Dodge, and ever since, corporations have been enslaved by their Stock Price, and all company policies have to increase the stock price, no matter what. If they don’t put the shareholders first, the shareholders can sue the company.

      That forces companies to abuse and under-pay employees, and make immoral corporate decisions because serving the Stock Price is literally the ultimate objective of every corporation. More than a good product, more than quality control, more than utility to the consumer, more than being a moral company who cares about their employees, the Stock Price is literally the only thing that matters, because that’s the law. Ultimately, the only product that any public corporation cares about, is its Stock.

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        If they don’t put the shareholders first, the shareholders can sue the company.

        The thing that gets you sued is not doing what you say you’re supposed to be doing. And that entirely depends on what it says in the corporate charter. A corporation is only obligated to maximize quarterly shareholder returns if they don’t clearly state otherwise. And it’s never been the stock price, it’s been dividends (which drive the stock price). And you’ll notice that quite a lot of software firms don’t turn a profit for many years and pay no dividends. And yet they’re not sued by shareholders, because they openly announced that that was what their strategy was.

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    Alright that’s the last straw, I’ve had enough news about tyrants today. I don’t even believe in magic but I’m still gonna put a curse on every single one of these disgusting fascists and enabling fuckwits. Rot, bastards. All of them

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    Vihhoo tihhkuvat akat, ukotkii eltaantunneet,
    vajjoot mahollistajat, kansoo nii murhhanneet,
    sikkailevvat raharikkoot, lapsiiki raeskanneet,
    kaik nuo elonkehhee ryöveevät suatanan ahhneet;

    lihat sulakee poies, suoletki määtkää,
    täysiks visvoo piät ilikeet ja tyhymätkii,
    kalluu nuo luut viel paha syöpäkkii,
    kaik fasistihet työ elävält mättääntykkää;

    puolest kaikkie heikompie, ny mie pistänkii vihoiks,
    kirroon verellä, kirroon raualla,
    kirroon sylellä ja suolalla,
    peittelennii viel tuhhkasella,
    mie kuritan mualimanpaskojia näen julumasti kostoks.

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      This is about shifting media attention away from Iran. When Miami gets shelled, then the Gulf becomes boring.

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    It makes sense for Trump to go after Cuba. I’m not saying it’s right, just that it makes sense. When Cuba went communist, the American vacation market took a hit because it was one of the major vacation spots for rich Americans. Having a communist country in the U.S. backyard has been a thorn for the establishment forever. Trump sees it as a win-win as an ’80s real estate guy. He gets to punch a communist country and scoop up land deals from whoever he puts in charge.

    It doesn’t matter that Cuba has been under embargo since it went communist, or that it pretty much hasn’t done anything aggressive to most of the world, including the U.S. All that matters is that it’s in a weak economic and military state, and Trump can grab an easy win for his base who think “communism bad.” And don’t get me wrong here, I’m not defending Cuba. I just don’t care. The biggest thing Cuba has done to the U.S. is give us a massive refugee influx.

    and I don’t count the Cuban Missle Crisis as relevant to this

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      People are brainwashed to trust authorities no matter what and to pick a side. The former president of USA was also an evil man yet many even here on lemmy couldn’t see it.

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        No, to detect obviously sociopathic behavior is a trait normal people have. Because our morals are partially either inherited or learned because we are social beings. So we instinctively have a sense of importance in protecting each other, especially wife children and the society we are part of.
        This is NOT tied to high IQ, but normal social intelligence, if you are NOT a sociopath or something similar, and that trait also exist among apes.
        So to not detect an obvious sociopath exhibiting sociopathic behavior routinely, a person literally has to be a sociopath or worse, because it requires to not have empathy, and to not have any moral standards, or general regard for the community or society we live in.

        In USA however, people are strongly indoctrinated to disregard moral standards, so maybe I should have written you either need to be a sociopath or American.
        Because in USA freedom is indoctrinated to be the highest value of all, and sociopathy is an expression of ultimate freedom. Sociopaths don’t care about norms or rules or to hurt other people. In fact they are sadistic, because sadism give them a feeling of power. But because it’s an expression of freedom, sociopathy is seen as a virtue among many Americans. Lack of moral standards and limitations, also enable a person to make money at great cost to other people, for instance workers earning a non livable wage. And money is seen as the highest achievement possible in USA, and since a lot of rich people are sociopaths or worse, that is seen as positive trait, that will allow you to achieve the most important goal in USA, which is to be rich.
        Failing to see that in Trump, can only happen because a person doesn’t comprehend the problems of his behavior emotionally despite maybe understanding them intellectually.
        If you are a stupid sociopath, you will of course not comprehend the problems intellectually either.

        So I meant my post quite literally, but with the possibility that it may be that Americans are brainwashed, to ignore the problem of antisocial behavior caused by what is technically called Dyssocial personality disorder, which I call sociopathy here, because it’s close enough, and people know what it means.
        Psychopath, Sociopath, or worst of all malignant narcissist which Trump is are all forms of dyssocial personality disorder.

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      a guy getting his ass kicked

      The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.

      It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.

      What they’ve accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn’t come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.

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      Talking awfully big for a man threatening a country with arguably one of the best infiltrations of the US intelligence network since the USSR. I’m unsure how true it is since the Cold War, but time was when you couldn’t go take a shit in the Pentagon without Castro knowing about it.

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        Only a couple a years ago the US ambassador to Bolivia was arrested for being a Cuban spy. I’m sure they’re still punching above their intelligence agency still punches above their weight. I’d be curious to know how they can actually leverage that strength if Trump really decides to go after Cuba.

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    This man is a Tyrant. The comparisons to the Third Reich aren’t just satire anymore; this is exactly what it is.

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    Trump seems to be speed-running the “overextend yourself militarily” part of the late stage in the collapse of empires.

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        That a sleazy criminal crook like Trump got elected and that he gets away with doing what he does is 100% the fault of the American system, the American elites and the American people.

        No amount of foreign interference would be able to even wobble this building if it wasn’t already rotten from the inside down to its foundations.

        Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and if it wasn’t him, it would sooner or later be somebody else like him.

        So please stop parroting the Neoliberal version of the “blame the foreigners” self-excusing nationalist propaganda that deflects from the 100% local people who are most to blame for what’s happenning, the deserved punishment for their actions at the hands of the common citizens - this shit would never have happenned without decades of pillaging by insiders, subversion of the guardians of Democracy like Courts and the Press, widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism switching of people’s critical thinking about their country and the purposeful stupidification of the populace.

        Next to the sleazy greedy assholes and a culture normalizing and even applauding sleaze and greed in America, the impact of even the most influencial of foreign states - Israel - is tiny.

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          The local people are to blame, but they’ve been influenced by decades of foreign-backed media/ propaganda and ideologues. Yes, some of it is due to the selfishness and greed of American culture - at every level - but the collapse is due to a confluence of multiple factors. And a non-trivial factor has been the influence of foreign propaganda and henchmen (it’s not just Donald Trump that is beholden to Russia/ Israel).

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            Go check who owns most of the Press in America - it ain’t foreigners.

            Go check who owns most of the Social Media in America - it ain’t foreigners.

            The rot not only predates Social Media, but the very Social Media that accelerated it is American-owned.

            I’m sorry but you’re just being a useful idiot when you parrot the very deflection propaganda of the local power elites that I mentioned in my last post.

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              Agree that the problems predate social media. Also agree with your assessment of the courts and insider palm greasing. To the dumbing down of the populace: there has always been an undercurrent of conservative white people trying to maintain the county’s wealth and power for themselves.

              But this:

              widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism >switching of people’s critical thinking about their >country and the purposeful stupidification of the >populace

              Was made infinitely worse by the media environment post-9/11. Since at least 2005, it has been apparent that there was an intentional effort to sell conflicting versions of events to the people so that they could not discern what was true. Yes, all of the American media at the time contributed to the garbage decision to go into Iraq. Initially though, the worst of the confusion of facts was largely driven by Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News. All of the Internet has greatly exacerbated this since then, and it has been asymptotic post-2020.

              Yes, American culture has (always?) been narcissistic and obnoxiously self-aggrandizing. But America had been a gigantic population of wealthy consumers for decades. So it draws all the avaristic psychopaths from around the world like moths to a flame. Are the local people to blame for the machinations of Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk? Saudi Arabian and Russian wealth underwrote Musk’s acquisition of Twitter, even if you count him as one of “the local people”. To the headless beast that is social media now, you have Russia contributing millions of dollars via Tenet Media in the 2024 campaign.

              Obviously there are plenty of American bad actors in this stew of billionaire-owned manipulative media, but most of them act with an agenda that does not involve ripping the country apart.

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                What I’m talking about here is the massive social, political and economic trends of the life-cycle of an Empire.

                So keep on Zooming Back your perspective.

                Here is an historic graphic of Social Mobility in the US.

                Here is the Gini Coeficient that measures inequality (the higher the more unequal), which actually understates the reality because it’s not that great at reflecting internal inequality in the top quintile (i.e. things like how the top 1% are now way much richer than the top 10% than before).

                So all the way back in the 1970s, America started changing from the “Land Of Opportunity” were “everybody has a chance” as shown by it’s massive social mobility back then to the equivalent of a feudal system - a zero-merit environment where the rich are rich because their parents were rich and those born into poverty are unable to rise up from poverty - AND on top of that the richer were getting richer and the rest were getting poorer.

                For most of the population that meant more povert and less opportunity hence less hope. From that you get more discontent.

                So, how do the elites pillaging a society deal with such increase in discontent due to the activities of said elites?

                Deceive the masses (for example: more and more lying in Politics, Press capture and subversion into a Propaganda machine and in present day psychological manipulation via Social Media), increase oppression (for example: ever more murderous policing, criminalization of “no victim” activities and harsher punishements) and in the case of a Democracy subvert the systems by which the citizens chose who will manage the nation (for example: political corruption, Gerrymandering, taking the vote away from felons - which typically hail from the poor - and, specifically in the barelly-Democratic US system, internal capture of the two parties in the duopoly of power that rules the country as illustrated by how the DNC gave the nomination to Hillary Clinton some years ago).

                So the entire system was pillaged by local elites and then when the discontent caused by that pillaging grew, it was corrupted by those very same elites to redirect or suppress the consequences for those elites.

                Foreign interference in present day America, is like maggots in a zombie - they’re not what made it a zombie and there would be no maggots in it if had not already been turned into a zombie.

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                  Here is an historic graphic of Social Mobility in the US.

                  Here is the Gini Coeficient that measures inequality (the higher the more unequal), which actually understates the reality because it’s not that great at reflecting internal inequality in the top quintile (i.e. things like how the top 1% are now way much richer than the top 10% than before).

                  A problem with these graphs & your inferences is it’s objectively unclear what to expect. What do they look like for other countries? What part of this is explained by other factors like unique historical advantages (eg, an industrial base untouched by war during the postwar boom) dissipating as other countries rebuild & catch up? Can we decouple these time-dependent factors to get an expected baseline performance apart from them?

                  With that social mobility graph, should we expect nearly all children to earn more than their parents every subsequent generation indefinitely? The remarkably similar graph provided by the source cited by yours shows birthyear of the child starting in 1940. Couldn’t their parents earning substantially less, perhaps by living through the Great Depression, and the postwar boom significantly explain the high proportion earning more than their parents? And as GDP per capita growth rate declines, wouldn’t we likewise expect a declining proportion of children to earn more than their parents? A base of reference would really help here.

                  As for the Gini coefficient, we see a 7% range from 35% to 42%. While this is an increase, it doesn’t seem staggering & needs evidence to distinctly support your conclusion.

                  Some problems you mentioned were always present or worse when that Gini coefficient was lower: gerrymandering, obstructions to vote (felon disenfranchisement, intimidation, poll taxes & tests), discriminatory incarceration, 2-party system due to plurality voting, etc. They’re not new developments systematically leading in the direction you claim.

                  It looks like you started with your conclusion & worked backwards to confirm it with evidence that is not as conclusive as you claim. An open-minded skeptic wouldn’t be convinced.

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                  Agreed! Russia can’t even afford to sit at the table with the real players, they are “second string” at best.

                  Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s. Can they afford to influence a rep? Yes, as always. But our reps will take money from absolutely anyone, get in line Russia, you’re right after Amazon and McDonald’s and Walmart and Tesla and Blackstone and Blackrock and so on

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          You’re right, Trump is the symptom of decades of corruption, the natural result, and a perfect example of the USA. He is what we deserve.

          He’s not even smart. This is just getting started, we live in interesting times