Two people critical in hospital as officials in Bend say 16-year-old suspect shot dead by bystander
A 16-year-old shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Bend, Oregon, on Thursday, killing three children and a teacher before he was shot dead by a community member, authorities said at an evening news conference.
The dead children at Silver Rail elementary school were aged five, eight and 11, officials said.
A seven-year-old and a 54-year-old were also hospitalized with critical injuries, according to police.
Without knowing any details of this case and the actual situation that happened - at one point in time, a civilian with a firearm opened fire at another (minor) with a firearm because there was a possible danger scenario near a school. How did the “good guy” in this scenario know exactly that this was the right call to open fire, and not just another possible “good guy with a gun”?
In this case, he was evidently correct, well done! But it could easily have become a terrible blue-on-blue scenario as well.
To me, this single “good guy with a gun” scenario does not justify the fact that firearms are so widespread that the “bad guy” easily got his own, and became more deadly as a result.
the kid shot 4 people and you don’t understand why someone considered them a threat?
I agree that the good guy with a gun thing is generally a myth and usually causes more trouble than good, but in this case I don’t think it was a hard judgement call…
A good guy with a gun happens all the time. You ever watch body cams?
That assumes he saw a kid with a gun and did nothing while evaluating the situation and getting a 100% confirmation that he is indeed a crazy shooter. Which could really only happen when he saw this kid started shooting other kids. Then he calmly found a location where he would not accidentally hit any bystanders and without missing, terminated the shooter. If that sounds improbable for a real life situation, that’s why OP expressed his doubts.
Also do we want every random vigilante carrying and deciding who is or isn’t a threat in general? If a police officer busts in and hurts an innocent while taking this shooter down it’s already a huge enough can of worms… if this guy did, now is he criminally liable or are we giving random citizens qualified immunity?
There’s a shit ton of conservatives in this country, so the answer to that question is a massive FUCK NO. We can’t even trust them to do things that benefit themselves. I have very little faith in the humans around me when I’m out in public. I don’t want them playing judge, jury, and executioner.
That scene in men in black but will smith is a conservative would be a great skit.
Statistically gun owners are more likely to shoot themselves or their family than to use the gun in defense
That includes both accidental and intentional use of the gun
That is why you need a gun safe.
“Good guy with a gun” is a fallacy.
https://abcnews.com/amp/US/breaking-nra-backed-theory-good-guy-gun-stops/story?id=53360480
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/how-the-good-guy-with-a-gun-became-a-deadly-american-fantasy
It just happened with this story. A legal gun owner took out a lunatic with a shotgun.