Iowa city council debates proper time in meeting agenda to “undo the curse that was just put on our city.”

An Iowa man has kicked off controversy over religious freedom in the small town of Ottumwa, Iowa by opening a city council meeting with a prayer to Satan, which then kicked off a debate about the proper time in the meeting agenda to undo the “curse.”

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    12 days ago

    Fun fact about space-time: there is no time “before” time. The human words like always, before, and other bullshit we see around us are only make sense in our world at our scale, and that’s infinitesimally small part of the reality that we even know about, and who even knows what we didn’t discover yet. There are sets of very complicated mathematics to try to make sense of that stuff, but we don’t have a way to talk about it using our everyday terminology.

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      12 days ago

      I call Occam’s Razor…in it’s simplest form, if something moves, then time exists. I’m no theoretical physicist so I may be wrong.

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        In order for something to move something need to exist, and we’re very iffy on the concept of things existing “before” or “during” singularity.

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          Ah…the old “cogito ergo sum” vs. “esse est percipi” philosophies. If that is the standard then the best I can agree with is that time, may or may not, exist.

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            No, not really. Not at all. It’s quite new theory of relativity interpretation, that is by now established quite thoroughly, that time is relative and significant enough masses, speeds, or energies effect not only space but time. So it’s not “I wonder how shadow tastes” philosophical pondering, it’s quite hard and mindbending “Here’s math that is so thorough and precise, it allows us to predict and then detect ripples of fabric of the universe that a dying star sextilions of kilometers away made a billion years ago. According to this math, if you move quickly enough you will be younger than your grandchildren, and if all the mass of the universe is squished together and converted to energy, actual time doesn’t actually flows”.