• Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Land back to all Native peoples

    The Kingdom of Israel existed there up until 720 BCE. Israelis and Jews lived in that area effectively “always”, just like the Palestinians. Returning “land back to all Native peoples” would mean exactly what we did - establishing a Palestine AND an Israel.

    What’s missing right now is the UN to get off its arse and ensure that they remain separate, without Israel encroaching on Palestinian land.

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        Ah, so we now need to start doing genetic check-ups? How many of the Palestinians still have Persian DNA, considering the land historically belonged to Persia?

        Also: you’re wrong. Israelis have very significant percentage of Near Easter and Middle Eastern DNA.

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      Why separate them? bring Kanaan back and if the Jews don’t like it they can go farming in the hills again.

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        They want to be separated. Palestinian nationalism grew extensively in the 1930s, there was unrest and a civil war. Palestinians want to have their own nation, just like the Israelis do.

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      It ended is existence in 720 BCE. Current State of Israel has no relation to it other than name. Majority of the Jews staying there today are Europeans.

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        Majority of Jews are Europeans because they got kicked out of their home in the 15th-16th century.

        But now we have a conundrum! You’re saying that “State of Israel has no relation to it other than name”, and that is - from what I understand - your argument towards there being no Israel as the solution to the issues, right?

        But that means Palestine should be eliminated too considering it never existed as a nation at all in the entire history of humanity.

        So, which is it? Are we keeping your methodology and giving back the entire territory to Iran, or are we agreeing that it’s stupid fucking methodology?

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            2 days ago

            Which Arabs? Lebanese? Egyptian? Jordanian? Syrian? Make it an Iranian exclave?

            And what do you do with the Palestinians and Israelis already living there? Genocide both groups? That’s your solution?

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              Palestinians are also Arabs. Jews have been staying there peacefully since millennia. Both can share a single nation with equal or proportional representation.

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                    Mandatory Palestine was never peaceful due to nationalists (both Zionist and Palestinian) fighting the British. Even if the British weren’t a part of the equation, the rise of Zionism and Palestinian nationalism would make co-existence impossible, as exemplified by the 1947 fights and the 1948 civil war.