The earlier threat, Trump's most extreme rhetoric since the Iran war started, sparked a wave of Democratic denunciations but was met with mostly silence from top Republicans.
I’m guessing nothing will happen, Trump is desperate, and he thinks he can threaten Iran into submission.
But I can perfectly understand if the Iranian population is scared about what will happen.
It’s just a guess though, it’s not like I would put money on it.
Yes but you are right there is a risk Trump will do something crazy because he is desperate.
Hopefully it will mean article 25 for him if he tries.
But the record of American institutions stopping Trump is pretty bad.
Yeah, one of my intel sources is a call for prefabricated bunkers from the pentagon on 3/28 with a request for delivery options on a 3 day, 14 day, and 30 day timeline.
Of course this could just be work to harden our bases since a lot of the infrastructure dates back to the early 2000’s, but I think it is a meaningful piece.
Unsure if there were any orders placed, or where the request went, so we may be a bit premature for putting in troops, I just do not really understand where DJ goes from here if he doesn’t make good on his threat - and they have been hitting kharg island all day.
Maybe that is the plan though, make Iran think we are going to launch troops tonight to see how they respond, or as a move of brinkmanship.
Of course, I am trying to apply rational logic to an actor we all know to be irrational, so you may end being right that this is all bluster and no planning.
Yes I wrote desperate above, it should really have been desperate and insane.
If USA chooses to put boots on the ground, I am 99% confident it will go very badly for USA, and I am also confident the US generals know that too. If USA put boots on the ground I bet it’s because they are ordered to by the administration, against the advise of military experts. Usually when USA does that, they have complete air supremacy, and they have way more troops than what AFAIK is available ATM. I also think USA lacks defenses against FPV drones and maybe even artillery fire, and that would probably be the most logical responses from Iran. In previous wars where USA has been very successful, that was all taken out before land troops were applied.
This is an asymmetric war, and I don’t think there is any real way USA and Israel can win that. Iran is not seeking a military victory, they are seeking to damage the US economy.
Hey you read this situation better than I did, props, it was truly a TACO tuesday.
You’re totally right about the drones, I don’t think our military has the slightest clue what is coming for them on a war scaled against china, and I think China is actually the winner of this war, as saturation missile and drone attacks have been their plans for a long time (missile more than drone, but now why not both?!).
We keep defunding laser weapons, which may be for good reason, but I always imagine it is because their is no repeatable grift on a laser weapon unlike a missile which requires lots of military industrial complex funding and maintenance on a huge scale.
They definitely succeeded, our economy is pretty fucked. Curious what long term effects come from this.
As an aside, I would love to see a comparison of DJ’s 10 point ceasefire deal and the original Obama deal, feels like we are much worse off now as we are responsible for paying for both the weapons we launched, and the damage we did, how dumb can we be?
Definitely China is the winner here, and USA is the loser, with EU somewhere in between. I think EU is gaining friends fast ATM. Trade deals with South America and India, and Japan and Canada even joining our SAFE program.
I’m guessing nothing will happen, Trump is desperate, and he thinks he can threaten Iran into submission.
But I can perfectly understand if the Iranian population is scared about what will happen.
It’s just a guess though, it’s not like I would put money on it.
I really hope I am wrong. TACO is always on the table.
Yes but you are right there is a risk Trump will do something crazy because he is desperate.
Hopefully it will mean article 25 for him if he tries.
But the record of American institutions stopping Trump is pretty bad.
But as I see it, he is blustering with no plan.
Yeah, one of my intel sources is a call for prefabricated bunkers from the pentagon on 3/28 with a request for delivery options on a 3 day, 14 day, and 30 day timeline.
Of course this could just be work to harden our bases since a lot of the infrastructure dates back to the early 2000’s, but I think it is a meaningful piece.
Unsure if there were any orders placed, or where the request went, so we may be a bit premature for putting in troops, I just do not really understand where DJ goes from here if he doesn’t make good on his threat - and they have been hitting kharg island all day.
Maybe that is the plan though, make Iran think we are going to launch troops tonight to see how they respond, or as a move of brinkmanship.
Of course, I am trying to apply rational logic to an actor we all know to be irrational, so you may end being right that this is all bluster and no planning.
Yes I wrote desperate above, it should really have been desperate and insane.
If USA chooses to put boots on the ground, I am 99% confident it will go very badly for USA, and I am also confident the US generals know that too. If USA put boots on the ground I bet it’s because they are ordered to by the administration, against the advise of military experts. Usually when USA does that, they have complete air supremacy, and they have way more troops than what AFAIK is available ATM. I also think USA lacks defenses against FPV drones and maybe even artillery fire, and that would probably be the most logical responses from Iran. In previous wars where USA has been very successful, that was all taken out before land troops were applied.
This is an asymmetric war, and I don’t think there is any real way USA and Israel can win that. Iran is not seeking a military victory, they are seeking to damage the US economy.
Hey you read this situation better than I did, props, it was truly a TACO tuesday.
You’re totally right about the drones, I don’t think our military has the slightest clue what is coming for them on a war scaled against china, and I think China is actually the winner of this war, as saturation missile and drone attacks have been their plans for a long time (missile more than drone, but now why not both?!).
We keep defunding laser weapons, which may be for good reason, but I always imagine it is because their is no repeatable grift on a laser weapon unlike a missile which requires lots of military industrial complex funding and maintenance on a huge scale.
They definitely succeeded, our economy is pretty fucked. Curious what long term effects come from this.
As an aside, I would love to see a comparison of DJ’s 10 point ceasefire deal and the original Obama deal, feels like we are much worse off now as we are responsible for paying for both the weapons we launched, and the damage we did, how dumb can we be?
Definitely China is the winner here, and USA is the loser, with EU somewhere in between. I think EU is gaining friends fast ATM. Trade deals with South America and India, and Japan and Canada even joining our SAFE program.